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An interesting segment on MSNOW’s All In with Chris Hayes took up the recent measles outbreaks appearing in several parts of the United States, and the thrust of the discussion left little room for ambiguity. Hayes framed the issue as one of clear responsibility, arguing that the resurgence of measles could be laid at the feet of HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. His guest, Dr. Peter Hotez, fully endorsed that view, tying the outbreaks directly to Kennedy’s long-standing skepticism toward vaccines and suggesting that his influence and policies had helped create the conditions for a public-health setback many believed had been settled decades ago.
After posting the segment on my X account, I was struck by the volume and intensity of the reaction. What stood out most was how sharply many viewers disagreed with Dr. Hotez’s conclusion that Kennedy alone was to blame. A significant share of the pushback came from Kennedy supporters and MAHA advocates, who argued that the segment ignored other plausible explanations for the spike in cases and instead defaulted to a neat but overly simplistic villain.
To their credit, the defenses offered were not frivolous. The most common argument centered on immigration, with critics pointing to the Biden administration’s border policies and asserting that millions of unvaccinated migrants entered the country over the past several years. In that telling, the rise in measles cases is less a consequence of Kennedy’s tenure at HHS and more the predictable outcome of population flows that public-health systems were unprepared to fully screen or vaccinate at scale. Whether one accepts the numbers often cited or not, the broader point they raised was that outbreaks do not occur in a vacuum and cannot be explained solely by the views of one cabinet secretary.
Others highlighted comparative data, noting that Canada—despite having a far smaller population—has reported higher measles case counts than the United States. That comparison, which does check out, was presented as evidence that blaming Kennedy exclusively does not withstand scrutiny. If a country with different leadership, a different health minister, and broadly pro-vaccine public policy is experiencing an even larger outbreak, then the causes are likely more complex than a single official’s ideology.
A third line of argument leaned heavily on lived experience. Many commenters recalled that measles was common when they were children, rarely fatal, and often treated as an inconvenient but unremarkable rite of passage that kept kids home from school for a week. From that perspective, they questioned whether measles should be treated as a dire public-health emergency at all, arguing that it is generally mild, rarely deadly, and even beneficial in building natural immunity. That view, while controversial and disputed by much of the medical community, remains deeply ingrained among a sizable portion of the public and cannot simply be dismissed as ignorance or bad faith.
Taken together, these reactions underscore a larger reality that the segment only partially captured. There is little dispute that a rise in measles cases is a legitimate concern and that public-health officials should take outbreaks seriously. It is also fair to scrutinize Secretary Kennedy’s anti-vaccine record and question how his rhetoric may shape public attitudes. But it is far less convincing to argue that the problem can be laid entirely at his feet. Immigration patterns, international trends, historical experience, and long-standing skepticism about vaccines all intersect here, complicating any attempt to assign singular blame. Reasonable people can agree the outbreak deserves attention while also recognizing that responsibility is more diffuse than the television debate suggested.
