The Deep State Debate Returns: Inside Peter Thiel’s Secretive Dialog Network

A newly leaked membership list from Dialog, an invitation-only organization co-founded by billionaire investor Peter Thiel, has reignited one of America’s oldest fears: that the country isn’t really governed by elected officials, but by a small, interconnected network of elites operating behind closed doors. The leak itself appears to be genuine and has been independently reported by multiple outlets, including WIRED, which says internal records and membership directories were left exposed online and later verified. According to those reports, Dialog was founded in 2006 and hosts private, off-the-record retreats attended by leaders from politics, technology, finance, media, and academia. The organization has kept its membership secret for years, leading some to compare it to the Bilderberg Group—a long-rumored gathering of global elites that has fueled speculation and conspiracy theories for decades.
The names reportedly appearing on the leaked list span the political spectrum and include some of the most influential figures in the United States today. Among the politicians and public officials said to be involved are Ted Cruz, Cory Booker, Tulsi Gabbard, Jared Polis, Wes Moore, Julian Castro, Jim Himes, and Jared Kushner. The list also reportedly includes major figures from technology and media, such as Elon Musk, Ezra Klein, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, along with executives tied to artificial intelligence, venture capital, and Silicon Valley. The sheer breadth of the roster is what has captured the public imagination. Conservatives, liberals, celebrities, journalists, entrepreneurs, and government officials all appearing under the umbrella of the same secretive organization naturally raises eyebrows and invites questions about what exactly is happening behind closed doors.
For many Americans, this leak will seem to confirm their worst suspicions. How is it that politicians who publicly disagree on almost everything can belong to the same exclusive organization? Why are billionaires, intelligence officials, senators, governors, journalists, and tech executives all meeting in private? What exactly is discussed when cameras are off and the public isn’t invited? Those questions naturally fuel concerns about a so-called “deep state”—the belief that an invisible, bipartisan establishment exercises power regardless of who wins elections. To many skeptics, this is not merely a social club or networking group. It looks like evidence that the real centers of power exist outside democratic institutions and that elections merely determine who speaks for the public while a permanent elite class quietly shapes the country’s future.
And to be fair, the perception problem is real. When powerful people gather secretly, public trust suffers. When organizations refuse to disclose their members, people assume there is something to hide. And when ordinary citizens feel increasingly powerless while wealth and influence become concentrated among a tiny elite, stories like this do not emerge in a vacuum—they fit into an already existing narrative that the rules are different for those at the top. The Dialog leak is especially striking because it reportedly includes individuals from both left and right, establishment Democrats and conservatives alike. To skeptics, this looks less like democracy and more like an elite class protecting its own interests while political battles play out on television for everyone else.
But there is another side to this story, and it is important not to ignore it. Secretive does not necessarily mean sinister. History is full of private forums where influential people meet: business conferences, academic retreats, policy think tanks, and informal gatherings designed to encourage candid discussion. The annual Bilderberg meetings, for example, have long attracted conspiracy theories, yet no concrete evidence has ever emerged showing that they secretly govern the world. Likewise, being listed as a member of Dialog does not prove wrongdoing, corruption, or collusion. Some attendees may have joined only once. Others may disagree vehemently with Peter Thiel’s views. Still others may attend precisely because they want to engage with people outside their ideological bubble.
In fact, the leaked roster reportedly includes people who are political rivals or who have publicly criticized one another. That reality cuts against the notion that everyone involved shares a single agenda. It is entirely possible that the meetings are exactly what their organizers claim: a place where influential people exchange ideas and debate important issues away from the pressures of social media and public grandstanding. Even some of the conference topics that sound provocative—subjects reportedly involving artificial intelligence, geopolitics, “Build-a-Cult,” and the future of society—do not necessarily imply malicious intent. Conferences often use provocative titles to spark debate rather than endorse the ideas being discussed.
Still, there is a legitimate debate to be had. Should elected officials participate in secret organizations? Should journalists attend private gatherings alongside the very people they cover? Should intelligence officials, CEOs, and lawmakers be expected to disclose these affiliations to the public? Those are fair questions, and citizens have every right to ask them. Transparency has long been viewed as a cornerstone of democracy, and when influential figures operate in private, skepticism is inevitable.
The Dialog leak may not prove the existence of a shadow government or a hidden cabal directing America’s future. But it does reveal something undeniably true: a relatively small group of influential people has access to one another in ways ordinary citizens do not. Whether that represents healthy networking among leaders or an unhealthy concentration of power is a question Americans will continue debating long after the headlines fade. And perhaps that is the real significance of this leak—not that it proves the deep state exists, but that it exposes just how fragile public trust has become when powerful people operate behind closed doors, leaving millions to wonder who is really running the country.

Trump Lawsuit Against IRS Raises Serious Conflict Of Interest Questions

A recent segment on MSNOW’s The Briefing with Jen Psaki dug into one of the most extraordinary and under-discussed stories of the moment: Donald Trump suing the IRS and the U.S. Treasury for $10 billion over the leak of his tax returns. On its face, the lawsuit is framed as a grievance about privacy violations stemming from the unauthorized disclosure of his tax information several years ago. But when you step back and consider who Trump is, the office he holds, and the long history surrounding his tax returns, the case raises profound conflict-of-interest questions that go well beyond a routine civil claim.

Trump’s tax returns were a defining controversy of his first term, not because of a single leak, but because of his unprecedented refusal to release them at all. For years, Trump broke with decades of presidential precedent, claiming audits prevented disclosure—a claim the IRS itself later contradicted. Litigation dragged on through multiple courts, House committees fought for access, and the public was left to speculate about what Trump was hiding. When portions of those returns finally became public, they revealed chronic losses, aggressive write-offs, questionable valuations, and a financial structure deeply entangled with foreign income streams and debt. Those revelations only reinforced why transparency had mattered in the first place.

Against that backdrop, Trump now suing the IRS for $10 billion takes on a far more troubling dimension. As Psaki pointed out, this is not a private citizen suing an independent entity; it is a sitting president suing an agency that ultimately answers to his own administration. Even if the alleged leak was real and improper, the structure of the lawsuit itself creates a situation where government lawyers are placed in an impossible bind. DOJ attorneys tasked with defending the IRS and Treasury know their client is also their boss. Career officials may insist they can act independently, but the chilling effect is obvious. How aggressively does a government lawyer fight a $10 billion claim brought by the president who controls promotions, budgets, and leadership appointments?

This is why critics see the lawsuit not merely as legal redress, but as a potential vehicle for self-enrichment and intimidation. Trump has a long history of weaponizing litigation—not necessarily to win on the merits, but to pressure, exhaust, or extract concessions. We saw this pattern repeatedly in his business career and again during his first term, whether it was targeting critics, inspectors general, or perceived enemies within the federal bureaucracy. Suing the IRS fits squarely into that pattern, particularly when the damages sought are so wildly disproportionate that they function more as leverage than compensation.

The lawsuit also dovetails with the broader corruption narrative now surrounding Trump’s administration and family. From his hotels and golf courses profiting off foreign governments during his first term, to his children maintaining business interests while holding senior advisory roles, Trump has consistently blurred the line between public power and private gain. The Trump Organization’s foreign licensing deals, Ivanka Trump’s fast-tracked trademarks abroad, and Jared Kushner’s post-White House financial windfalls all reinforced the sense that access to the presidency was being monetized. The IRS lawsuit feels like an extension of that same ethos—using the machinery of government not to serve the public, but to settle personal scores and potentially line one’s own pockets.

What makes this moment especially dangerous is normalization. Each individual act can be waved away by defenders as technically legal, procedurally defensible, or politically motivated criticism. But taken together, a pattern emerges: constant ethical edge-pushing, relentless conflicts of interest, and an erosion of institutional independence. When a president can sue his own tax authority for billions while appointing the people who oversee that authority, the guardrails of democratic accountability start to look frighteningly thin.

As the country heads toward the 2026 midterms, these issues are unlikely to fade. Midterm elections are historically difficult for the party in power, and this one appears especially volatile given persistent voter anger over corruption, cost of living pressures, and perceived abuses of power. Whether this IRS lawsuit becomes a defining symbol of those concerns remains to be seen, but it already stands as a stark illustration of how deeply intertwined Trump’s personal interests are with the public institutions he is supposed to lead—and why so many Americans remain alarmed by that reality.